For once, we get a sofa to sit on. We talk to Per and to Morgan, lead guitarist in the band. First we're amazed to learn that they've only been together four or five months. Then the shocks come thick and fast...

You seemed to cover quite a lot of ground within indie music. What sort of music do you listen to?

- Burt Bacharach, says Morgan.

- Well, the influences are there all the same. I think that... well I do most of the songs, but even then I don't listen to indie pop. We listen to everything, so the influences vary a lot, I'd say.

Are they planning to release a record or something?

- No, says Morgan.

What, never? We're shocked again.

- Well, probably at some point.

- We haven't put any time at all into marketing ourselves, Per says. We've played all round Sweden and made some contacts, though.

Morgan expands a bit on this.

- If somebody comes to us, then it's definitely interesting, but mostly when we're out playing it's somebody who knows somebody who... and nothing comes out of it. And then there's all the bloody hype. Well maybe if it's good hype... Say a record company signs us, then the first single, and then if that goes well a second single, and then you've had your chance and have to change name or instruments or whatever. That's what the business is like.

Have you recorded anything at all? Demo tapes?

- Yes, says Per, but just for our own personal use. We haven't released anything. If a friend wants, we can copy one, but that's it.

There's a pause, and Morgan decides to shock us again.

- But next year, we're playing the main stage, at the best time!

We resist saying that this is just what they deserve, and feign surprise instead.

- Well that's actually true, you know. Last year when Louisa and me were here, it was about when this project started. I'd been doing jazz before that. And so I said, next year I'm playing at Trästock.

As Pondicherry, we wonder, or as member of Bob Hund or something like that?

- No, no, as Pondicherry. If we carry on developing like this, anyway.

How have you liked Trästockfestivalen?

- Really good, says Per. Good festival and good bands, it's just got a bit big. The first year there was just one stage and about a thousand people. Now there's four stages and we're up to 20 thousand.

Morgan points out another unwelcome development. He thinks the festival was better last year.

- Too many drunk teenagers. I think it's pretty bad actually. I noticed when I was out last night, for one thing they're younger than last year, and a couple of degrees more drunk as well.

We ask which band they thought was best this year, and it was one of the ones we missed, of course.

- Heed, says Morgan. They were bloody good. They'd sampled everything, and had it all on DAT, then they had a drummer, who just had a hi-hat, footpedal and so on, then a bassist, a rapper and backing singer. Shame you missed it, it was cosmically good. Nobody knew about it, and everyone who stood there just...

And it's kind of obvious what he means. We leave next year's headliners reclining on the sofa and head out into the chilly air again.